[ Forw: "Bill Segall" ] Re: Tickertape features

[Bill Segall]

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To: "Sachin Kulkarni" <sachink at dstc.edu.au>
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Subject: Re: Tickertape features 
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Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:24:22 +1000
From: "Bill Segall" <bill at dstc.edu.au>

Sachin,

Thanks for that list. Some things you might like to know ...

>Retrieve available Channel list

This is something that really doesn't exist within Elvin because of
concerns about global scalability. There is almost a way to do seomthing
with an elvin feature called quenching but there is no central respository
of channels.

There is a web page on the Elvin web that contains some information at:
http://elvin.dstc.edu.au/projects/producers/tickernews.html

>Subscription retrieval; majordomo style 

Again not really an Elvin feature although Julian has some ideas about
repositories for this sort of info.

>Activity analysis of channels

Nice idea.

>Repository of responses (X asks questions, Y replies, Z starts
>tickertape asks same question so on) 

Actually there is significant commercial interest in these from both Boeing
and SAP. I've always liked teh idea of an anser garden and the logging part
of this is mostly done. The scuttlebut folks are playing in this space.

>Repository of service clients ( weather, stock quotes etc ) 
see url above ...

>Personalisation (based on service clients; personalise info messages) 

would be nice.

>Authorisation 
>Encrypted chat

Elvin doesn't yet support authorisation although security is
possible. The aquatik (MacOS-X) and jinx (java) clients have the beginnings
of secure communication built on the Elvin security model but teh clients
have been slow to adopt this.

>Web-interface 

For posting see:
http://internal.dstc.edu.au/cgi-bin/ticker.py?user+10+elvin

There also applet tickers available:
http://elvin.dstc.edu.au/projects/sticker/sticklet.html
http://elvin.dstc.edu.au/projects/je4/applet/index.html

>Visualisation (IMvironment (yahoo term))

Could you elaborate?

>Email notification on tickertape 

This can be done quite easily:
http://elvin.dstc.edu.au/projects/tickertape/mail.html

>Ads support (for commercialisation) 

Noooooooo! :-) Oh ok, I think you just configure the installer's to have
the ad groups.

>Status based message control (no subscriber of 'Chat' channel is
>currently online or available) 

Some of the newer clients (sticker2, aquatik) support this.

>Multiple identities

You get to fake your id but I guess this not the same.

>Invite /remove subscription (moderator role for channels)
I like it ... etiks does allow a network install where only the
administrator can control the groups.

>Emoticons 

;-}

>Record conversation

See:
http://internal.dstc.monash.edu.au/ticker
http://virgil.dstc.edu.au/cgi-bin/tickerlog_cgi

>Spam proof? Ignore sender, message (ex. 'Word 'Beer' mentioned n
>times..' )

Some clients have advanced subscriptions that allow this sort of
thing. etiks can do this for you through the subscriptions file.

>Voice support 

I shared a room with Andy Bond in about 1996 and he had this hacked
together. I p[romised I'd never let it happen again :-)


See security above.

>WAP/Mobile Clients support 

The M3 guys had WAP phones sending/receiving tickertape events running last
year sometime. You could ask them about it and they may even still be able
to do a demo for you.

>Sorry for being overenthusiastic about expectation :-)

Not at all, this is all good stuff. ... want to help implement?

Also, there is a majordomo mailing list called ticker-dev that you might
like to join for which we discuss things like this ... with your permission
I'd forward your mail and my response to it.

Bill.

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