[ticker-dev] on the use of user@foo

David Arnold arnold at dstc.monash.edu.au
Wed Apr 10 16:07:06 EST 2002


-->"Martin" == Wanicki, Martin <Martin.Wanicki at Australia.Boeing.com> writes:

  Martin> I am in favour of making as few changes as possible and
  Martin> although section 3.1 talks about the User field as User Id,
  Martin> the notif format actually specifies User as the field name.

i'm in favour of getting it right, using as few changes as possible ;-)

  Martin> Whatever we do I am also in favour of utilising as many
  Martin> attribute names as possible from the *new* tickertape spec

consistent naming for fields with the same semantics is a fine thing.

we have (had)? a golden opportunity to get both presence and chat
consistent.  given the releases of eTiks, aquatik and sticker using
draft formats, this opportunity might be over now, but ... ?

  Martin> Where I realise these are a separate domain, I'd really like
  Martin> to see standardisation among attribute names carrying the
  Martin> same or similar enough meaning..

yep.

  Martin> As far as I'm concerned the User in tickertape messaging is
  Martin> an alias, ie the name i wish to be known as for this message
  Martin> and (personally) the name I wish published as my presence
  Martin> alias.

except that we're talking about separating the location and the name
in the presence spec.  no one has proposed that for ticker (yet).

i don't want to force ticker users to supply a location (although the
convention i suggested for constructing presence displayed names from
Location and User-Alias would probably work fine ...)

  Martin> a real name or real identity/presentity attribute doesnt
  Martin> exist in either spec atm (imho)

where "real" means something that can be tracked to your real self,
no.  but presence does have the "unique" requirement for userID.

i would be extremely dubious of any requirement for a traceable
identity.




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